Teacher Accused of Having Sex With Student Allegedly Had Toddler Present in Home
Shannon Cardinal, 43, a Mayville High School teacher, who is accused to having sexual relations with a 17-year-old Marion boy, is alleged to have had her 2-year-old present in the home during one of the encounters.
A toddler was present in the home during an alleged sexual encounter between a teacher and former student who now lives in Marion, prosecutors say.
The teacher, Shannon Cardinal, 43, of Oakfield, WI, may face charges in Iowa in addition to the 186 years in prison she is facing if convicted in Wisconsin. Those are among new details emerging in the case in which Cardinal is being accused of having sex with an underage former student, who was 16 at the time of some of the alleged encounters and is now 17.
Prosecutors said in a court appearance Friday that Mayville High School teacher Shannon Cardinal had her 2-year-old child present during one of the alleged sexual encounters at her home, Fox 11 of Green Bay, WI reported.
NBC-26, also in Green Bay, WI, cites criminal complaints in its reports that the unnamed student left the district and moved to Iowa in March, and that Cardinal traveled to see him and they allegedly had sex in his mother's house.
The report states Cardinal may also face charges in Iowa.
The relationship started slowly, according to the Fox 11 report.
The student told police he started having lunch with Cardinal in her classroom in May 2011, Fox 11 reported, citing criminal complaints. In fall 2011, he was enrolled in her Spanish class, he told police.
Things evolved from there.
Lunch turned into text messages and friendship and then allegedly evolved into a consensual but illegal sexual relationship, with the first encounter being on December 8, 2011, the student told investigators, Fox 11 reports.
"We're dealing with a situation that is known as consensual in fact, but not in law," Fond du Lac County District Attorney Dan Kaminsky told Fox 11. "And sometimes participants may not realize the significance of the conduct they are engaging in."
Cardinal has been charged with six counts each of sexual assault and child enticement.
According to Marion Police Chief Harry Daugherty, the first known sexual encounter occurred in Marion, but most encounters occurred at Cardinal's residence in Mayville. A family member of the victim brought the alleged relationship to light in Marion.
Cardinal appeared in court for the first time on Friday and was released on a $5,000 bond.
Cardinal has been on paid administrative leave since April 23.
The Fond du Lac District Attorney did not immediately respond to contact from Marion Patch.
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Abenanki woman
12:41 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
There is a difference between "present in the home" and "present in the room." Stop trying to sensationalize this nonsense and give the facts. Journalists stink these days.
timskee
1:18 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I agree also. But, it is their job to spice it up a bit. I don't know if the toddler will have recall of the act, even if the toddler is present in the room and sits there from start to finish. I myself have no memory of anything before age four. I have six siblings and I've asked them years ago, to what age do you recall anything, good or bad and they also don't recall anything before four years of age.
Michael Keen
2:18 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I agree. The media and their hype has gone way beyond rediculous! That said, what one earth will be gained by a second trial other thad wasteing tax payer money to line the pockets of the legal system which has become a joke also. Wake up people, this teacher and her lover are not the only ones getting screwed here........
Michael Keen
2:27 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Also, while I don't condone it in the least this sort of thing has gone on for centuries. It's time we pull out puritancal heads out of our rectum and simply recognize lust is lust, and who has more lust than a 17 yr old male....
myriah007
3:47 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I Agree
Mary Smith
7:47 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
While we're watching what the teacher is doing, education is being gutted by those who control the corporate media. There is also a major transfer of wealth taking place from the poor and working class to a fraction of the 1%. Time to movement build.... get involved.
Bobby Gee
8:00 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
and just how do you abuse sex and where were these teachers when i was going to school? omg how lucky these guys are today
joe
8:55 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
well maybe she was trying to show the kid about the birds and thr bees.
Scream
4:57 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Michael Keen, no one is blaming the boy. But the 43-year-old teacher was old enough to control herself.
R. Allee
8:50 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
The face of journalism has taken an ugly turn. For some reason, these reporters believe we the public want to hear their personal comments and bad jokes. Please stick to the facts.
Ziggy Hudson
12:52 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
totally agree
Paladin
5:05 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Okay, so let's just give up on civilization because upholding standards offends your libertine leanings. Hey, rape, murder and theft have gone on for centuries, too.
Look, any adult should be smart enough to understand that you can't allow teachers to have affairs with students. It undermines discipline and respect, among other things.
Matt Wade
6:44 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
At 16 I had left home and moved in with my 25 year old girlfriend so really whats the big deal
Scream
4:59 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Matt Wade, your girlfriend wasn't your teacher, big difference.
Paladin
12:02 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
Scream,
Yes, the immaturity of these so-called adults is astounding. They have no conception of how civilization's institutions are maintained.
Scream
1:34 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Agreed, Paladin.
Ziggy Hudson
12:53 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Lucky kid............
Teresa K.
12:54 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
which "kid"?
Jc
7:30 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
The big deal is that it is illegal. shes so old compared to him. its just gross
joseph elmore
12:45 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
i father'd a son at 17,girl was 18 , did she rape me ?,(not) wow.even if she did, i got a great son out of it ..wouldn't change a thing. oh by the way that was 23 yrs ago..!!!
Scream
5:00 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Joseph, how does that compare to this case where a 43-year-old teacher had sex with her 16-year-old student?
Teresa K.
12:53 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Hey, If yer old enough to be someones PARENT legally, that is 18 or over, you are WAY TOO OLD TO BE having intercourse with them. Shame on this old lady taking the beauty of the youthful innocents away.
of course, the child was home. he lives there. I'm sure the lady, albeit sexually deviant lady, wasn't putting on a performance for her two year old.
Ziggy Hudson
1:25 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
lol
Juan Diaz
1:26 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
What innocence? Whose fantasy world are you living in. Every kid including me at that age would love to have had sex with there gorgeous teacher, that is unless they are a bit fruity.
Personally I think the kid is harm more by the traumatic experience of having to sit before a room full of adults and talk about what h did with that person. I can almost guarantee you that he felt great havig sex with that woman.
buffy
1:44 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
i agree with you!
DSherline
3:41 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
So, at 56 I'm too old to have sex with a 38 y/o, 'cause I'm old enough to have children that age? I don't think so!
Y9Power
4:07 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Actually you can have kids at 12.. NOT 18!! Where the heck you take your biology class?
Paladin
5:08 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Yes, Timskee, I'm sure the kid wouldn't have any objection, and I wouldn't have, either, at that age. But that isn't even close to the point. Minors may not have any objection to eating ice cream for dinner or not attending school, but that doesn't mean you comply with their wishes. That's why adults exist. Try to act like one.
Bob B
6:06 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
There is no such thing as a 17 year old 'young' boy. He is a young man, who happens to be 17 years old. I seriously doubt about him losing his 'youthful innocence". A possible jail sentence in WI of 186 years for this is absolutely ridiculous - let alone her facing additional punishment in another State for the same thing. Whatever happended to our Constitutional guarantee against cruel and unusual punishment? The punishment should fit the crime.
Patrick Rodgers
6:16 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Teresa, older women have sought out younger men since the start of time, just as many men prefer younger women. This is of course no excuse for dipping below the legal age barriers and especially when violating the trust between teacher and student. It will be interesting to see in this case if the alleged victim will actually get on the stand and testify against his lover. If he refuses, the D.A. may have trouble making the case.
Lil
11:30 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I hope your not saying 'innocents away' from a 16yr old guy cuz let me tell you there is none their, most guys in my high school were far from innocent in every aspect.
Scream
5:01 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
DSherline there's a big difference between you having sex with someone who is 38 and someone who is 16 LOL
Robert King
1:04 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I know what she did was wrong,but 186 years.Murders get less time.
LKLEX
2:01 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
You're right; 86 years should suffice.
chieflilbear
7:05 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I agree 186 yrs in one state is unreal, let alone more time in another state. Drug dealers, and child molesters get less time
Lil
11:32 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
its really another great example of our tax dollars going down the drain to maintain another prisoner a big waste of it! and btw the guys in my high school are far from innocent!! believe me this is nothing compare that all the crazy s--- that goes on among teenagers adults are just to blind or scared to notice
Lady Justice
1:08 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
doesnt matter about looks, sexuality, nope. this is an individual with moral turpitude. Crimes against another. (alleged). now on PAID leave. If convicted a lien placed tp liquidate any pay made to the subject during said acts and review. Then sanctions paid out......i would never want a burger handled by same, would you?
Keith E
1:47 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
What the hell did you just say?
LeRoy Johnson
1:48 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Since he was 17 years of age: I wouldn't prosecute him. By the time most kids are in high school thet are sexually active. And in their junior and senior years, they are almost all extremely sexually active. It might have been better for the teacher not to have done this. But she did not force him. Much ado about nothing.
Waste of police resources and money and definitely a waste of valuable court time and prosecutor time and money. Drop the charges and forget it.
Tim Doe
4:04 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Hom Skooled i presum?
Lil
11:33 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
? what
Laurie
3:50 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Excuse me! She IS a child molester, Chief. His life WAS taken from him. You do not know the long-term damage sexual abuse has on an individual. He may spend the rest of his life recovering from the trauma of being violated by someone he should have been able to trust. This will totally distort his view of trust, sex, and authority. It will build feelings of shame, worthlessness and guilt. 186 yrs. or 86 yrs., either way she will not live the length of the sentence, so that is not relevent. Hopefully she will lose custody of her child because she is a pedophile/sex offender, and should have to register as such.
Scream
5:05 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Leroy, I didn't see anyone saying the boy would be prosecuted.
derwin
1:15 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
look hate to say it, but this has been going for years, it's not like it's something new the media is making a big deal about it i tried to pick up on one of my teachers too, maybe this" kid " did too and was successful, you know to take an older woman is something "boys" do brag about........
Juan Diaz
1:34 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Hell when I was in elementary school I recall being in "love" with my teacher. I and the other boys would always try to sit in front of her so we could look up her dress, when she was wearing one. We even ask her to come over to our desks to check our work so we could look down her blouse when she'd bend over in front of us.
timskee
1:42 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Man, I can't believe these teacher / student sex is still happening. When will these teachers learn? You cannot have sex with a teenage boy and have it kept a secret. It just can't be done. He may keep quiet about it for awhile, but it is something that he has to tell to only one boy. Then the cat's outta the bag. I think that girls who have sex with a teacher, and I think that it is much less compared to boys, have to keep it quiet or else she will be refered to as a whore by all of the boys in school. I know it's not right, but that's the way it is.
Ines Parrish
3:25 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
ugh...to you. "boys" brag about? that may be true, but the woman should have known better - especially since it's been "going on for years"
Scream
5:06 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Rape has been going on for years too, doesn't make it OK.
Ziggy Hudson
1:16 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
186 years for diddling a kid that agreed to it? yeah,sure...makes sense. On his next birthday he can make the decision to join the Army and get his limbs blown off,but right now he cant decide to screw his teacher.who makes these rules?
Lil
11:38 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
dumb a--- that love to craddle their bible under their armpitt and then wack off to some perverted porn, please most guys in high school would love to get going with the teachers and they know excatly what they are doing so this is bs ooooo poor little boy is just that BS!
MaskedBlogger
1:28 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
What the heck is going on? Why is the happening all around the country? What is wrong with these women? I swear there needs to be some kind of psychological testing before giving people teaching certificates. Why on each would she want to have a sexual relationship with a kid? Absolutely makes no sense whatsoever. It just seems more and more you're seeing this about female teachers.....something really needs to be done...I say start with the psychological testing.
LeRoy Johnson
1:53 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Actually the age of consent varies. Some states a young person can consent at age 14. Most the age is 16. Very few have an age of consent as high as 18 any more.
I know many students who had sex with one or more of their teachers. This is nothing new and not uncommon at all. Welcome to the real world!!!
buffy
2:04 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I agree with you! The school need to start watching their student and teacher more carefully.
Lil
11:41 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Female teachers???? please this goes on way more with male teacher's the only thing is we females dont go and blab about it like guys do!! they just love showing off and this poor lady all she needs is good counseling she probably has insecurity issues and the dude well he must have no issues cuz men are just like that sex is just sex
MaskedBlogger
1:31 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
BTW 186 years is ridiculous, murderers don't get 186 years. She didn't kill anybody, what she did was absolutely wrong, and she need to pay the piper, but not to the tune of 186 years, she also needs therapy.
Steve Steiberg
1:35 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
This teacher can relax! Only male teachers get large amounts of time in the big house nowadays. She is likely to get 186 DAYS, not years, of home incarceration (without teenage male students). Her record will be expunged. The teachers union will not only preserve her job but within two years she will likely be promoted to assistant principal. And, her paid administrative leave will last longer than any of us would like. I hope she learns a lesson from this other than "to not get caught".
Prince Juan Williams
2:54 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
How can you be sure of your comments Steve Steiberg? This teacher can relax! Only male teachers get large amounts of time in the big house nowadays. She is likely to get 186 DAYS, not years, of home incarceration (without teenage male students). Her record will be expunged. The teachers union will not only preserve her job but within two years she will likely be promoted to assistant principal. And, her paid administrative leave will last longer than any of us would like. I hope she learns a lesson from this other than "to not get caught".
I am a 17 year old male. I had a teacher who I would have loved an encounter with. We had an opportunity to do so, but I declined because she was married. I must admit she was hot, and made it HARD for me to stay focused in her class. needless to say, I suffered everyday for a whole year wanting her and her wanting me but not actually doing it. I'll be 18 in a few days but it still wouldn't change the fact she is still married. I know I made the right choice, but I can't help but wonder if I had; how would it be? I guess my mom was right; she taught me "train up a child in the way he should go, when he is old he won't depart from it." I feel good about my decision but not the thoughts that I didn't just doi it. signed still struggling!
Lil
11:46 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Yeah i dont think its that simple...and btw a 16 year old guy knows exactly what he is doing so this is way too much time its a waste of money and energy the guy was probably in seventh heaven
Mick
1:38 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Let me see if I have this right in this Twilight Zone nation I live in. This is getting national attention, a lucky 17 year old (wish that was me when I was 17) gets laid by a hot teacher whose 2 year old kid was in the same house, she face over a 100 years in jail as a result. Dick (Herman Goring) Cheney makes millions in stock profits over govt contracts awarded to contractors in Iraq that he just so happen to have owned stock in while 5,000 brave GI's die and over 1 million innocent Iraqi civilians die as well. Instead, Cheney gets to write a book and go on tour and by the way, this monster has not donated a penny from the proceeds of his shameless book to ANY vet group. Rather than the media focusing on a freaking war criminal monster like (5 draft deferments) Cheney, they focus on a hot female teacher who fulfilled a red blooded 17 year old boy's fantasies. AND THEY ASK ME WHY I DRINK!
Baruch Sephar
4:04 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
"Whore crimes" trump "War crimes". That's why we're living in a country that's been plounder by the GOP who have shifted the blame w/ no recollection of their 8 previous yrs of poor governance and instead of focusing on fixing the economy they attack abortion and other woman's rights.
Extracurricular sex ed for a young man who I'm sure appreciated it greatly= 186 yrs?
Bringing our country to financial ruin; causing the death of thousands while invading a "stable" country under false pretenses= $$$?
I think they use mind control
grumpy
4:50 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Mick, you are absolutely correct on all counts except the drinking part. Our society has taken equality of sexes to an absurd extreme. We want to protect girls but we can't see a difference so we decide the laws have to protect boys as well, regardless
of what possible impact it will or won't have on the boy. Hopefully the jury or judge will have the temerity to do the right thing and find out from the boy just how "traumatized" he has been by the experience. It sells papers, sponsor time and
feeds the tabloid mentality of America. As for the child being present...oh come on..
my parents made my brother and sister in my presence unless they went to a motel and I sure don't remember anything about it...
Lil
11:48 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
pass the bottle this way buddy cuz this s---- just gets crazier everyday
Scream
5:23 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
If you think that teacher's hot, then YOU are living in the Twilight Zone LOL
She's got acne!
Tim Doe
1:39 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Paid to get Laid leave
buffy
1:42 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
It sound like we have another rapist. Rape is rape the teacher knew better! So it okay to rape a teenager? It the same as holding a gun to someone head and forcing them to have sex rather they want to or not.
Baruch Sephar
4:22 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
NOT SO Buffy, 16/17 yr old boys don't see it that way. It's not the same as w/ girls the same age who are easily infatuated. The guys I rolled w/ at that age would have loved the opportunity for some of her "teaching". Wouldda been a BIG notch on the belt and a fond memory. NO harm, NO foul!
Patrick Rodgers
6:34 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Buffy, rape is not rape, Rape is sexual intercourse by force, threat of force, fear, or if the victim is mentally unable to give consent. What this case falls under is "Unlawful intercourse," meaning the victim was considered to be a child and incapable of understanding consent to the act. The age of consent varies in many states, as does the definition of the statute, but most are misdemeanors. Conviction in many places also requires the person to register as a sexual offender with their local Police Department for the rest of their life. If convicted and that could well be doubtful with a hostile victim, the woman would likely not get more than five years and only serve half of that (Good time). She may take a plea bargain to avoid the publicity of a trial and the lesser sentence. This is really a nothing case in the scheme of all the rotten things criminals are doing in this country, but face it sex sells newspapers and grabs media ratings.
Matt Wade
7:20 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
ya can't rape a willing participant....
Lil
11:51 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
your a girl and probably too old to remember high school..stop the drama guys dont think the same way about sex than women do so stop trying to analize this guy got laid and that is that
Scream
1:41 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Patrick and Matt, you're both wrong according to the law. The law says an underaged person cannot consent. That's why they call it "statutory rape".
Juan Diaz
1:46 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Before anyone wets their panties, I don't condone the actions of this teacher. However, I personally think the kid is harm more by the traumatic experience of having to sit before a room full of adults and talk about what he did with that person. I can almost guarantee you that he felt great havig sex with that woman.
Tim Doe
4:00 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Sick Pup.
Lil
11:53 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
most teenage boys feel great about having sex with a freaking hole in the wall this is BS
Bijgmack M cnet
1:55 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
What do you expect from one of those west coast tree hug'ers?
Mike Browne
6:52 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
It happened in Wisconsin, dummy.
LeRoy Johnson
1:56 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Actually the age of consent varies. Some states a young person can consent at age 14. Most the age is 16. Very few have an age of consent as high as 18 any more.
I know many students who had sex with one or more of their teachers. This is nothing new and not uncommon at all. I had sex with several teachers while I was in high school. Welcome to the real world!!!
Lil
11:56 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I remember me as a female having a huge crush on a teacher he was just a little older than myself and all he did was flirt never anything else until i saw him a few years later at a club and we hooked up needless to say it was the best fantasy come true I ever had!! (-: of course I was already legal by that time.......
Laurie
4:02 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
LeRoy, you are absolutely incorrect. There is not ONE state where a 14 yr. old can legally consent to have sex. It is called statutory rape. Period.
OLD SALT
2:06 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I was out of school and in the Navy at 17......I came home on leave and took out my old English Teacher.....I picked her up Friday after school and took her back Monday.....She taught me more than Engilsh that weekend...She was in her late 20's was that wrong ???? Now I've been married for more than 25 years and my wife is 7 years younger than me.....When we met she was 20...but the state we were in she still needed her parents to consent or wait till 21.......So tell me where do you draw the line ???? Drop charges and get on with life.......
Patrick Rodgers
6:43 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Old Salt, you were a lucky guy to have an English teacher like that. The point to note is that one, you were not her student when the encounter of the close kind occurred and secondly, as a member of the military you were an emancipated minor and of legal age. While it might have been frowned upon by the school, it was not illegal. When I was in high school I had the same teacher for for three years of English and two years of Spanish. Never had any sexual fantasies, because he was my Dad. Learned my English, but missed out on all the fun you had. Good story and thanks for sharing.
Scream
5:27 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
43 and 16 is just gross.
Sonny Fla.
2:10 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Where were these teahers when I went to school, dam......
Tim Doe
4:02 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
They didn't teach you spelling, Homer.
Todd Richissin
2:25 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Worth pointing out that she's accused of the crime and has not been convicted.
Richard Furgeson
4:41 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Now a days in this country you are guilty until proven innocent and even then the media has already damned you in the public eye because so much of the population are ignorant sheep instead of free thinking and free willed people that know how to weed through all that bias view points to get to the facts.
InfiniteStealth
2:35 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I just dont get it. What has happened to the women today that makes them risk everything for sex with a kid? This is happening over and over like its some kind of fad or something? Can anyone explain this?
bob
3:29 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
One reason might be their taking their lead from our politicians ( Bill Clinton, John Edwards) and a host of others on both sides of the political aisle. She's getting HER 15 minutes of fame, will probably be asked to a lot of TV shows for interviews, maybe even write a book or have a TV special about it. She'll make a ton of money, maybe have a trial, might get some lenient jail time or probation and live her life. In two years all this will be forgotten, because more of this stuff will happen, & she'll be old news. (Probably less time than that, it will be as soon as it happens again, which might be next week)
Lil
11:59 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
My mom told me its because women have a much higher sex drive than men do at that age and the only other to compare to is a teenaged guy she said it also happens when women have low self steem and that she needs psych help not prison
Cpt Dano
2:37 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
This woman must have been under a rock for the last 10 yrs. How many of these have been in the news recently. The age diff doesn't really matter, what matters is that he was HER student or a student under her charge. Betcha he got an "A" in that class.
She is certainly not a "hot" Teacher, average at best.
Ines Parrish
3:21 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
what do her looks have to do with this, really?
Cpt Dano
3:52 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Dear Ines,
Her looks have absolutely nothing to do with this other than other peoples reference to her as a " hot teacher".
There you go, I was polite, this time.
bill k johnson
4:16 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I was told,she looks better laying on her stomach.
knick fan
2:53 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
They really need to stop with this stuff. It's a waste of ink and they could've used the paper for real news. The kid is 17 and no longer her student. He's just one of the lucky few! I like someone else that commented was in the Navy at 17.It didn't say the child was in the room, you can have sex with a child in the house. And then, she's facing 186 years in prison,LOL, I don't think Jeffrey Dahmar got that much time. What does she have poison ivy between her legs?
Laurie
4:05 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
She deserves the same end result as jeffery dahlmer.
Laurie
4:05 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
She deserves the same end result as jeffery dahlmer.
Scream
5:30 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
I thought Jeffrey Dahmer got life in prison.
Alex Watson
2:55 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
How is it that this woman faces up to 186 years in prison when people murder each other and do things 10 times worse than this and get 10-20 years? Quite the justice.
Bob B
6:00 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I totally agree. And our politicians keep referring to our system as the "best justice system in the world", and the world is laughing at us.
InfiniteStealth
6:40 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I have not yet seenanyof these so called teachers receive anywhere near the type of time you are talking. Thats probably why it keeps happening.
S
3:27 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
This kid will look back and see a picture of this woman and think Oh My how could I have done such a thing. Am sure this poor woman had no other way to get a mate but to trick them into something. She needs to find someone her own age for a playmate. That will be difficult, considering her looks.
Carol Bair
3:30 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
And when was this young man (no, he isn't a child) going to turn 18? Too bad they couldn't have waited a few months. I think it's crazy to prosecute this woman. Until the sh.. hit the fan, the guy probably thought he was the luckiest man around.
Steve Steiberg
3:44 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Yes, he is a young man but the point here is that this woman was in a position of authority over this student, similar to an employer-employee relationship. Besides, teachers should not be trolling the student population for intimacy, in my opinion.
Scream
5:32 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
And the boy is probably going to feel guilty for the rest of his life that this woman is in jail. So all these people patting him on the back really aren't thinking of what the future holds for him because of what his teacher did.
kenneth murphy
3:46 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Drop the charges and let them be lovers if this is what they want, you don't hear those two complaining, its the 20th century. Yhat lucky boy.
Tim Doe
4:01 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Would you high five your daughter?
Ben There
4:01 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Today, "under age" children know more about sex than some adults. Young as some 14 yr olds doing things and not calling it "sex". Even Prez Clinton said it was so. Most all male 16-17 yrs old, have raging hormones. The wind blows, he's ready. Sees a girl, he's ready, Wakes up, he's ready.
That's the attraction for the "older" female teacher, instant reliability and his machine like focused mind. As we men get older, quality goes up but the instant attention, goes down along with body toning. We get there, only it takes longer to recover.
Rape? huh? He can't be raped in that sense of the word. He aware of his doings, just may not think it's wrong to do it with his teacher. After all, that what she does, teach and he is a willing student. Ms Hottie doesn't want to wait, she wants to get busy!
Scream
5:34 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
She is no way a hottie! LMAO
David Martin
4:10 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I doubt there's a seventeen year old guy on this planet that doesn't want to have sex. Most of them have by then, anyway. That "poor baby take away his innocence" is nonsence. And 187 years in prison for her.........what is that about? You can join the army at seventeen but heaven you perform the most natural act of the human race
Scream
5:35 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Aw, that poor, poor old teacher hag sitting in prison because she couldn't control herself LOL
Ronald Smith
4:20 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
RS
Some of you people have the mind of a small plant. Can't spell, no knowledge of anything and even less common sense.
Sex has been around since the beginning of time. It drives all human psyche. This is about a horny woman who is no longer his teacher and he no longer lives in that school district, so the school shouldn't even be part of the picture. This didn't happen there.
And, I agree, how many young men, about the same age, are getting blown up, in the name of justuce for our country, but a 17 year old can't have sex with whomever he wants. So this encounter has damaged this person...the contrary, his ego is bigger than ever.
She should have killed him. She would have a better chance of a lighter sentence.
This is about as ridiculus as the 17 year old, having sex with his 15 year old girlfriend, and he going to jail. 17 year olds have forever been screwing anything that moves. What does the age of the woman matter when the age of the boy is a few months away from being old enough to do anything he wants to do.
And, as far as this woman's child being in the house at the time...does every married couple or unmarried for that matter, that has young children, go out in the driveway and get in the back seat of their car to have sex? I think not!
If this would have been a much younger child, then we have a much different situation.
james
4:27 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
First, the only problem I have with what occurred is that she was in a position of authority, if power in the students life. However, I have no issues with them having sex, eve at his age. And the earliest I can remember is just before my 4rth birthday, in small snippets of pictures of where I lived and a few other things around me. I had teachers in high school and in Jr high that if the opportunity presented itself -- HELL YEAH!
Lewd Dobbs
5:06 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I wanted to have sex with my teacher since I was in kindergarten.
nan
5:19 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
lust makes people STUPID
jorge sylva
5:27 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
186 years for consensual sex, and yet the criminals in our government who orchestrated the 2003 Iraq war and the bankers who brought down the financial markets and destroyed the world's economy walk free. Incredible.
Cheryl Ellis
5:38 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
franklinmom
What happened to teachers knowing where to draw the line? Teachers are given authority to TEACH our children READING, WRITING AND ARITHMATIC, not SEX, FOREPLAY AND LYING. This woman knew better and she was the one in the authoritative position. She deserves to be punished but not to the tune of 186 years. I feel like should have to make a formal apology, and attend sexual predator
therapy. What she did was wrong in the eyes of the law and GOD!
ED
5:52 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I feel for this teacher somewhat. Being the teacher she definitely should not have had sex while the kid was a student where she taught. On the other hand he was 16 and 17 meaning he was old enough to know what he was doing. You going to tell me that most guys in high school would not like to bang there nice looking teacher of midage. He got his wish and she had fun, but she is going to end up in jail. She will get sentenced to way too much time though. Plus she will have to register as as sex offender probably for the rest of her life. That in it alone is a bad punishemnt for what she did.
Jim Wood
7:03 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
This world is so screwed up sometimes.
Maybe she should lose her right to teach but she should not go to jail and lose her child. I agree with most of the replies. He was 17 and yes he knew what he was doing. By no means was his innocents taken away. He was probably already sexually active and the laws are saying it would have been ok if he was having sex and seducing a freshman girl in high school with the age of 14yrs? Or is it better that he had sex with an older woman that already was also sexually active?
Mike Browne
7:07 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Boys reach their hormonal peak at around age 19, while women generally hit theirs in their late 30s to mid-40s. I'd say this incident was part of God's Great Plan.
Tankp
7:35 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
When I was 15 I had a affair with a 23 year old.
I kept it close to my heart no one ever knew about it.
Today these kids blab it to everyone. We have a saying in the Navy.
Lose lips sink ships. Kids are not the same today as when I was that age.
Stemu Umets
7:48 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
REALLY MMA Matt?? That's not what you told me! YEAH I'm talking to YOU, Wade.
Joe
7:54 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
oh for Christ sake leave the poor woman alone...for crying out loud what kind of demented double standard hypocritical society we live in when all we ever do is promote sex...sex in the music...sex on t.v...in the movies...in the cartoons (have you seen the figures on the super heroes, men and woman)...sex on billboards...on the internet...sex education for grammar school kids...sex everywhere....this 16 year old has been exposed to sex in the most overt ways his whole life..he isn't some pure innocent little flower like John Boy in the Little house on the Prairie....and I guarantee you he was not a virgin when this woman found him...most kids are having sex by age 14 now-a-day...so give me a break
Scream
1:51 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Joe, you think sex education for grammar school kids is WRONG?? What century are you from?
There is no need to explain the teenager's motives here--he is the victim. There is NO excuse, however, for a 43-year-old woman that can't control herself.
douchebaggery
8:21 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
The real victim is not the 17 yr old....the real victim here is the 2 year old if her mom goes to jail for 186 years that would traumatize the child more then anything. So what she "did it" with a student im sure he looks at porn with women who are just as old. Stop trying to attack someone if he wanted it then let it be and not take this mother away from her child.
Its not fair that this 2 year old would have to know her mom through a window on visitation..now thats child abuse if anything I hate the law they protect the dummest crimes and make it sound so bad but meanwhile the real pedophiles get more protection and get away with it for years (penn state scandel) and be sound out to be victims. BOOO AMERICA!
tnjranch
8:39 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
So, he's seventeen, almost 18, which means he would be old enough to go to Iraq or Pakaistan and kill or get killed, , at seventeen, he knew what he was doing, so as far as I am concerned, only thimng wrong would be, if they did it at the school.
tnjranch
8:43 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
So, the seventeen year old male, who will soon be eighteen, which menas he will be old enough to kill or be killed in the military, is not old enough to have sex? The only thing wrong that I can see, is IF they would of had sex at school, but otherwwise, he's old enough to know his in's and out's....
Amber
9:05 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Not that I condone her behavior, but 186 years? There are murderers who don't even get that kind of time.
John Clark
9:17 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Oh please, youthful innocence my rear end. There was NOTHING wrong morally, just less than a year & it would have been "legal". 186 years in prison? What kind of monstrous society have we become? Total nonsense
Mark
10:46 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
186 Years? I don't agree when a teacher has sex with someone who is underage. But when someone gets less than 25 years for murder and she can get 186 for that. The justice system needs to change a little bit.
Mark
11:28 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Umm, if, the sexes were reversed, (male teacher, female student) everyone would be saying the teacher, should be shot, and the poor student needs therapy. Soooo, why, since women want to be treated equally, dont we treat this female teacher, like any other male teacher that has sex with a student?
dogmeat
3:59 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
i was 14 and she was 21 and now im 44 best time in my life when i was14 she gave me power over her.
shazbotbaru
4:40 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
When I went to school, the teachers looked like they were abducted from a funeral parlor and given a classroom...Old and ugly is all I can say..the thought of me doing anything with one of them is totally mauseating....Lucky kids nowadays...dang...born too early...AH WELL....such is life....nuff said....
Scream
1:54 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
That's not what teachers are there for.
Ken
4:57 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Apparently some of the male students in my high school art class along with myself were abused by our pretty, 25 year old art teacher back in the 1970's. Strange, we didn't feel abused or victimized by her, and no one complained. We were 16-18 years old at the time, so what did we know?
Andrea Wilkerson
6:07 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
I wish people would understand the difference between "innocents" and "innocence." I have only seen one person use it correctly in all of these replies, but several use it incorrectly. You don't take away someone's "innocents." You take away their "innocence." There, that is your lesson for the day from a teacher who can't take all the terrible spelling and grammar. (Don't even get me started on "their" and "there."
Eric Stachel
7:45 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
Give me a break! What does it matter if they were having sex or not? At 17, that guy knew what he was doing, and I am sure he wanted it just as much as she did! I know I would do her, and I bet I would enjoy it. Why don't the police and the courts concentrate on real crime, not this kind of nonsense?
Sal M
7:56 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
When I was 17 ... all my friends and I used to think about was picking up girls and getting laid. What she did was wrong (age wise by approx. 1 year), but don't go telling me this kid was innocent. And, there is no way this woman should even get close to 186 years in prison. The prosecuter in this case must be sexually repressed to even consider that sentence. Top mob figures and some murderers don't even get close that. This just goes to show you that our justice system really stinks. As far as the baby being in the house ... it could have been asleep in another room. They make it sound like she had sex in front of the child. Anything to perk up the story when it comes to the press.
Luz SyChalwe
7:59 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
16 years! The boy knew what he was getting into and I feel sorry for the poor teacher, 186 years or is it life in prison? Must thank the media for being too nose. The boy's inner him will not let him have a normal life knowing that someone is dying in prison because of his untrusted life... I wish she would be given a five year or less sentence...
Jon B
8:22 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
The teacher is facing 186 years in prison? While I don't condone her actions I'm wondering - how much time would she be facing if she beat up or killed the 16 year old boy? Don't really think the punishment fits the crime....
LD
6:56 am on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
When smart people do stupid things, no consequence what ever the amount would change it! You have to be in a very dark lowly place.....to just not care about the consequence.
LD
4:11 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
We keep thinking the teacher was the one doing the pursuing! When I was 16 I learned the power of my tongue and had a cocky arrogance that I could talk any women in to bed. At 17 I charmed a 36 year old married woman that I worked into having sex with me.....it was easy, she was in a emotionally low point in her life and I could read it! The kids to day would have called me a player! I gave my life to Christ a few years ago and have lots of regrets for the women I preyed upon takeing advantage of them in times of need . All I am saying is there are two sides to every story.....I would feel horrible right now if that 36 year old would have lost everything and had to go to jail because all i wanted was to get a lil! and preyed on her when she was vulnerable..just my 2 cents
Michael Keen
10:48 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
I have read all the preceding commenst and while may have true validity I found Lil's and Ronald Smith's the MOST truthful. What I really want to say here is the majority of people need to pull their purtinical head out of their azz and understand what is happening. This is not about a a teacher in a superior position molesting a young man. At this stage of the game is is about how much money the media and legal system can milk from this scenario. You want to talk about rape?........that is what the media and our government is doing to the sheep that sit behind a computer screen whine for a bit until the next inflammatory story hits the media but never does anything to change anything but whine to another email person!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael Keen
10:54 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Please forgive my being a bit inarticulate in my last post......I was more than a little angry over some of the idiotic replys in the email chain. I think you get the meaning of my comments though......unless your one of the idiots I was referring to.......
Michael Keen
11:17 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Ok......one last provactive thought. Why do so many sit here night after night inputing or thoughts , our personal realities into situations such as this when none it will have even a smattering of effect of what either of the two primaries in this case have to live with tomorrow? All these comment make no difference in their lives people.....we're only shouting out what make us feel better about it while buying int to another media foster child outlet.
Diane Davids
4:32 am on Monday, June 25, 2012
It's amazing to me how many people seem to almost, or actually do condone this behavior. The teacher has a responsibility to her students, school, district and knows the boundaries of that position when she begins her career at age 20 something. I also saw where someone made a reference to Van Halen singing "Hot for Teacher". They do not cross the line into the actual act in that song & I agree it deals with a teen fantasy. The way the reference was presented actually is so far off in my eyes! Van Halen only acknowledges the boyhood musings & wonderings in a comical way. Makes me wonder if the writer still holds the Beatles responsible for Charles Manson, or Marilyn Manson for all suicides. Wake up! It does not give permission to do what Shannon Cardinal did. It's amazing to me how many almost blame the 16 yr. old for this rather than the teacher-- i.e. his hormones, etc. What is wrong with you people? That is still like blaming the victim of rape for the rape and letting rapists go free. I thought as a society we had progressed far enough to get beyond those narrow minded thoughts.
Scream
1:55 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Pretty scary that so many feel sorry for a middle aged woman who should have known better.